Islanders Matinee: Shout at the Devils
by Dominik on Nov 28, 2009 6:00 AM EST
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PrintIf the Islanders have to play back-to-back afternoon games, at least today's opponent has to do the same. The Devils withstood a shot-heavy day (37-33, video and insight at ILWT) in Boston yesterday to tie 1-1 and win the shootout.
The Isles, meanwhile, gave the kind of 60-minute effort we've been pining for, impressing home fans (and even bringing some fans back after years of tested faith).
Andrew MacDonald was called back up last night. We haven't seen enough of him, but I wouldn't call you crazy if you thought the Islanders' top four blueliners were in order: Mark Streit, Jack Hillen, Andy Sutton and MacDonald. But Sutton left yesterday's third period with a groin injury, so take him out. No big hip checks today.
Not that the Devils will shed a tear. They've been banged up all year, which is why our spring romance Dean McAmmond is up with them. Jay Pandolfo, Rob Niedermayer, Danius Zubrus, Paul Martin and Johnny Oduya are all still out. If the Islanders had that kind of talent on the shelf, well, they'd be in one miserable state. The Devils? They're 16-6-1.
A little food for thought on Islanders goalies and goal songs after the jump...
Goaltender Gazing
In 15 games, at 5-on-5 the Islanders have scored 34 goals for Dwayne Roloson, while giving up 33. For Martin Biron's 12 games, that figure is 11 5-on-5 goals for, 19 goals allowed. Shorthanded, per 60 minutes of 4-on-5 (PK) time, Biron is giving up about 10.4 goals. Roloson is giving up less than half that.
Their GAAs (Roloson: 2.80; Biron: 2.78) and save percentages (.916 vs. .913) are very similar, but their win-loss records (8-2-5 vs. 2-7-2) are quite different. The above differences may be part of the reason: The Islanders are giving Roloson more goal support, and their penalty killing unit (of which, granted, the goalie is the most important part) has been weaker for Biron. Just some food for thought to keep in mind while watching today's game.
Coach Gazing
Because I love watching coaches have to translate post-game for the media -- whether they're as engaging as Pat Quinn or as reserved as Scott Gordon. Here's Gordon, considerably less agitated than he was after the sleepy third period vs. the Flyers:
Goal Song: The Topic That Never Dies
They're holding a vote on the official site for a new (or the same) goal song. I am on record as saying I've never lacked for direction after a goal is scored: I cheer and clap my head off and don't even notice what sheep-guiding song is supposed to lead us to do whatever it is they want us to do whenever it is they want us to do it. I prefer organic celebration to spoon-fed singalong.
But if it's a singalong they're after, that "Bro Hymn" song sure sounds filled with "heys" and what-not. If it's my bias they're after, that Zombie Nation "Kernkraft 400" song has a place in my heart: The first time I heard it was in 1999 at an outdoor rally in Munich for their soccer team Bayern Munchen. The players came out in the town square wearing liederhosen. (Of course!)
Strangely, a few years later this song was popping up on the American sports scene, and I had the out-of-body experience of realizing that a European soccer celebration with pro athletes wearing liederhosen was, somehow, ahead of its time.
And you? Since Gary Glitter isn't an option, what's your preference for the goal song? You can also choose "just a little organ and a whole lot of crowd yellin'" if you want.
Prediction: Not many goals are scored today. The goal song vote -- which ends Dec. 4 -- satisfies no one.
Note: I'm not certain I'll put up a separate in-game thread today, so if this is the last post at game time, then just consider this your thread for random in-game observations and tomfoolery.
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Islanders Trek
I found this hilarious, I put it as a link just in case someone might be offended by Sulu being referred to as the Token Asian character.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
Goal Song
Those are the four finalists? Really?
Can’t we get someone to write a goal song, a la the Whalers and Brass Bonanza, rather then co-opting some lame mainstream rock song?
You would think. Something that wouldn’t sound dates within a few years.
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That sounds like a plan
Really, someone ought to do it. Might as well be the Isles.
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wow, the KC Scouts, thats pretty funny. I thought it was the Colorado logo.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
Every time I see the “Jersey’s Team” deal on the Devils’ site, I think, “Two other states had ’em first!”
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Did you guys read the story over on Notes from Forever 1940? Check it out here
Todays matchup is actually an homage to organizational history. I wonder if it was perhaps done on purpose?
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
No Offense, but this is the Gary Bettman NHL. I’m willing to bet its more accidental then anything else. He probably wouldn’t even know that the Devils used to be in Colorado.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
LOL!
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 28, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, that’s cool. Poor Rob Ramage (the Rockies’ #1 pick) used to talk about that game quite a bit since he was on the wrong end of it.
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I dont understand why they arent talking about it on the broadcast. I missed the pregame though maybe they were talking about it then?
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 28, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
HA- right after I said that they brought it up! :D
They arent pointing out that it was against THIS organization though and I think thtas really cool.
Let Us Go, Islanders!
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 28, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, that’s part of the hook for me.
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Frans is out again…great. He just get him back and things start to look up and bang…out again. What does it take to keep him healthy? I hope he isn’t getting Martinek’s disease.
I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.
“upper body”… but hey, it could be something minor, too. I guess we will see. I didnt see him get hurt I can tell you that.
Let Us Go, Islanders!
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 28, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I hope he isn’t getting Martinek’s disease.
Take that back!
Anyone see what happened? I missed the first period.
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What does it take to keep him healthy?
Might I suggest a large, hockey player-sized roll of bubble wrap? I’m hoping the Devils will invest in some for the defense so the Devils’ roster no longer includes half of the players from Lowell.
No doubt. Soon the whole league will have to invest in this technology. That, or lighten up on the schedule.
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All that they showed was an off glass side check that took him shoulder first into the glass. but he continued to play the end of the shift. I’m not sure what happened exactly. Hopefully they have an update later on in the game.
I take it back. LOL! Perhaps I should say Gaborik disease?
I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.
Thanks. Guess it’s good it’s not his knee again?
I’m not sure I like Gaborik disease any better, but if the points come with it…
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Attaboy Biron
Holding the fort here. Probably shouldn’t say that, but…
Pikarannen looks like another feisty Finn.
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Andy Says:
Hey guys, you miss me? Let me just pick up another +1 and be on my way for the day.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
Ha, indeed. That play where the puck hit the post, then danced on Biron’s shoulder had me nervous — would have been MacDonald’s first minus.
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Was Jack really THAT unsportsmanlike? I dont think so. What he did was very sportsmanlike.
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
I’m on gamecenter and forced to watch the Devils feed where they decided to show Roloson on the bench instead of the “unsportsmanlike” event. What happened?
I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.
by metalcoconut on Nov 28, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, the Isles feed was no better — they were about to cut away and also showed Roloson. But Jaffe and Rose called it a “swordfight” at center ice and couldn’t figure out how Hillen was guilty yet Pikarannen was somehow innocent.
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Thanks for the info. It is always nice to know what is going on when the announcers fail to describe what the camera fails to show.
Is he out for the game? They have not said anything about that yet either. I just saw a 2 min penalty with Hillen skating off the ice.
I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.
by metalcoconut on Nov 28, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Oof. 2-1
Tavares almost got the goal right back.
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What…this is a red letter day. A booth review went the Isles way. I must check the sky to see that it is not falling.
I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.
I cant figure out what dream world the ref was in where that could have ever looked like a goal in the first place. There was not one view where it looked like it was a goal.
Let Us Go, Islanders!
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 28, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that was crazy. Better, he (and the celebrating Devils) interrupt what might have been a continued scoring chance.
The only conclusion: The ref is on the take, but Toronto wants a cut before they let him get away with it.
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Of course it was a goal, the horn sounded. It is like Strange Brew in that when the goal horn sounds the officials point at the ice. It is a Pavlovian experience. LOL!
I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.
by metalcoconut on Nov 28, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Buy a lottery ticket … no, don’t do that — it won’t matter, all civil structures will have collapsed anyway.
Kind of surprised the ref thought that was a goal.
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End of 2nd: 2-1 Devils
Don’t call it a comeback, we’ve been here before.
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MAN I wish we could cut and paste the third period from yesterday right into todays game!
Let Us Go, Islanders!
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 28, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
There’s an app for that.
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LOL!!!!!
Well install it then! What are we waiting for the period already started!
Let Us Go, Islanders!
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 28, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Install error. The file was damaged. :(
Let Us Go, Islanders!
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 28, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
LOL. Reboot! Reboot!
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Even the Devils announcers are saying that the 5-3 penalty was a “fine line”. That is funny.
I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.
by metalcoconut on Nov 28, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Nice
Fine line of crap. Seriously, they just pissed all over this game.
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Isles PK
I think the PK has a better rating when its facing 4 or 5 PKs a night and a 5 on 3 as compared to 1 or 2 PKs in the game.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
THAT'S what this game was missing
I thought it was odd we hadn’t yet had to kill a 90-second-plus 5-on-3.
What an absolutely horseshit call on Park. Give me a damned break.
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Bullshit
Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Thank you, Devorski and Rooney the Clowns. You’ve done this great sport yet another wonderful service.
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Unbelievably weak. Add to that Witters stick breaking blocking a shot and youre stuck with a 5 on 2 situation. That just sucks.
Let Us Go, Islanders!
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 28, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
That was rough. Cheers to Witter and the Alaskan continuing to suicidally block 5-on-3 shots, tough.
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Agreed!
I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.
by metalcoconut on Nov 28, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Hey maybe we will hear another premeditated goal horn. LOL!
I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.
Working on it, they’re working on it.
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Devorski and Rooney theme song
Is playing here.
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I love Benny Hill, but how about this?
NSFW Language & Denis Leary
He’s an A….
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
Well played. Also works for Mottau.
Watch “Rescue Me” at all? Man, that man’s acting film/TV career is even better than his comedy.
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I keep hearing about it, and I’ve watched an episode or two, but I don’t tend to get into the series that are on Cable. Actually the same can be said for the networks too.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
I hear that. I sort of backed into it a few seasons in. It’s actually incredibly depressing thanks to pervasive alcoholism in most of the characters. But it has some hilarious moments, and Leary surprises me.
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Yea, Leary’s usually pretty good. I love him in Demolition Man.
Actually my problem right now is that I need to get a converter box for my TV to start getting cable channels again. I’ve been lazy about it since all I really watch on it is Sunday football anyway.
Just as an aside to not add to the other thread, I think this is the most Islander Drafted 1st Rounders to be on the Islanders at once in a decade. You’ve got Bailey, Okposo, Tavares and DiPietro. I think maybe the 99 or 00 season might have had 4.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
And here comes the make-up call
Gotta even the ledger. Maybe we’ll even get a 5-on-3 in the final minute to make it look good.
/not typically ref raging, but that was a joke — and I wasn’t even done fuming before they coughed up two more!
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Here Dom, I’ll give you the bright side to this mess. Out of 14 games this month, the Isles only lost by more then 1 goal 3 times this month. And this is only the 5th game of the season the Isles lost by 3 or more goals.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
I like the first factoid better than the second. But I’ll take both. And this game was just a post-screwjob meltdown away from at least being another close loss, if nothing else.
Nice signature. :)
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haha, thanks, I thought you’d like.
At this point last season, the Isles had lost 8 games by 2 goals or more.
What I meant to say in the 2nd factoid is that the Islanders loses have 5 times been more then 1 goal, so that means if you add in the OTLs we have lost a game by 1 goal 11 times.
Of Course this is when we went on the 10 game losing streak last year, starting with the first game of December, so down a shot and cross your fingers.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
I am convinced that this .500-straddling team wants to wrench my heart up and down and sideways, so there’s no way they’d give me the certainty of a 10-game streak.
/crosses fingers
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Well, that was a train wreck! I’m glad I listened to the 3rd. I don’t think I could have watched that one.
I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.
“Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hand fast.”
Yeah, throw this one out.
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Goal Song Ideas
Calm Like A Bomb-Rage Against the Machine
Bulls On Parade-Rage Against The Machine
Harder Than You Think (The end of it)-Public Enemy
Postmortem-Slayer
Blitzkrieg-Metallica
Wanderlust King- Gogol Bordello
Bro Hymn is the best of the choices available on the site, but other teams do have it…the rest are weak…in general the music at the coliseum is weak. Other arenas are much better.
Hey Now
Last Islanders game I was at they were playing Vitamin C, How dare you call that weak!
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
Welcome quin — thanks for joining.
A couple of those I need to check out to make sure I know which ones they are. Regarding the Coliseum music in general (and at a lot of arenas, actually) — that’s why I’d rather them be restrained rather than over the top. Less is more. We don’t need a prompt for every powerplay and every [insert upcoming promotion here] and every whistle. Then it becomes just white noise to me.
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Vote for your favorite blogs- such as Lighthouse Hockey?
Hey guys, the Arena is doing a poll asking for your favorite Isles blogs. You can vote for up to 9 Isles blogs here. I am doing some reviews of the blogs that were listed for the poll- of course this site is one of them. You can read part one of that over there now, and it would be great if you voted for all of your favorite Isles blogs, too. Only a couple of votes so far, but Lighthouse Hockey is presently beating out Point Blank. :)
Let Us Go, Islanders!
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Funny enough, I twitted about this 15-20 min ago, one of the few things I’ve twitted that had nothing to do about my blog.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
Cool! :) Well after twittering/tweeting (whichever one is correct I can never remember lol) you should vote and add your 2 cents regarding blogs over at the Arena too. :)
Let Us Go, Islanders!
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 28, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Once again, you are WAY too kind, TMC. ;)
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In retrospect
Prediction: Not many goals are scored today.
This would be why I don’t gamble.
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