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Islanders Gameday: Extending Julien's headache

Here we have two teams coming off bonus point losses after coughed-up leads, but under entirely different circumstances with entirely different season-expectation subtexts.

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New York Islanders (7-6-7, 5th/Atl) at Boston Bruins (8-7-4, 2nd/NE)
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The Bruins had a ridiculous, back-and-forth 6-5 OT loss in Pittsburgh (video highlights posted after the jump, because they are worth a look) in which only one goal came on the powerplay. Bill Guerin tied it with 0.4 seconds remaining in the game... just minutes after Sidney Crosby was stoned on a shorthanded breakaway that would've tied it... which was just moments after a Marco Sturm tip gave the Bruins the late lead.

The Islanders, of course, lost their 2-0 lead in Florida, but only made it to OT thanks to a two-goal comeback of their own led by Kyle Okposo and John Tavares.

While neither game was a happy outcome for the teams in question, the Islanders were at least playing their game. The Bruins got caught in a Gordon-esque shootout that surely turned Claude Julien's iconic dome red. Here's Derek Morris, relaying the company line:

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"We scored goals, yeah, and we got a point, which was nice, but that's not our system we're going to play. We did things we don't normally do and we did them all in one game. We're lucky to get a point."

Here are the highlights of the Bruins-Penguins game, which had ridiculous deflections, crazy Tim Thomas saves (and gaffes) and ol' captain Bill Guerin shooting on goal at a critical moment.


Shots were an un-Julien-like 33-33. Can you imagine the Islanders' and Scott Gordon's reaction after a game like that? They'd be disappointed by specific breakdowns, and by the result -- but you just know the idea of getting in a shootout is not anathema to them like it is for the B's. Plus, with the young-and-innocent theme the Islanders have going on, you know Jeff Tambellini (if dressed) would be there saying the team is going to take the positives out of the performance.

Talk Me into a Win, Please

Which brings me to the Fan's Mental Plan going into tonight's game. The Bruins were facing a Penguins team energized by the return of Evgeni Malkin, so it's not stunning they were subject to a Penguins scoring party. But certainly Julien will have his troops re-focused on a stringent defensive game. Seven of the Bruins' last nine games have featured three goals or less. They've also been shutout three times during that span, by Detroit, the Rangers and Tomas Vokoun.

Naturally I'm hoping the Islanders can dictate play initially and grab another early lead and give Julien more reasons to furrow, but goals may be tough to come by. Julien is one of those coaches who's fun to hear talk hockey -- and even more fun to watch grimace when his team isn't following orders. Yet as much as I want that lead, what I fear most is a repeat of that first Bruins encounter (the 50th minute 3-0 meltdown in front of Dwayne Roloson, spoiling a great early-season performance). Something like that coming after Washington, Carolina and Florida, and all my big talk about blown leads being a good problem to have will ring a little hollow. Of course, the Isles seem to like their symmetrical record, and an outright loss would make them 7-7-7, so...

Lineup Shenanigans: MacDonald in, Witt out

That's my fragile mindset, anyway. Meanwhile, the big story as of Sunday night was the call up of Andrew MacDonald to replace Brendan Witt, excused for personal reasons. As I mentioned in the previous thread, I doubt this will be a drop off -- but jumping into the lineup isn't an easy task for a defenseman, and if the Islanders take a lot of penalties, someone will have to make up Witt's PK minutes.

In goal: Martin Biron's turn, no? Unless Gordon "likes Roloson against" Boston, as he did for their first encounter.

And in other lineup news, what'll it be for Jeff Tambellini? He sat out two in a row, while fellow healthy scratch Josh Bailey was back in the lineup after just one game in the press box. Road trips have a way of popping up maladies and "personal reasons" and who-knows-what, so maybe the decision will be made for Gordon. Or maybe Tambellini goes back in and we see a newcomer to the land of healthy scratches. I can guess who several of you would like that to be...

Prediction: Odds are 50/50 we go to overtime...unless the Isles go for that whole record symmetry thing.

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I think this is an early must win for us. Philly whose tied with us, Tampa and Boston (who are only 1 point behind us) all play tonight too. We can really tumble down the standings with a loss tonight.

Interestingly, if we were in the Northeast Division we’d be alone in 2nd place in the division.

by Mark D on Nov 16, 2009 7:29 AM EST reply actions  

I’m glad that if you’re digging up the pooh bear you’re also rocking the fishsticker.

That pens game was ridiculous. Most bloggers are thinking Tuukka will get the start for Boston, but that probably means we’re in for Roloson/Thomas.

I suppose since you’re linking to my blog I better go put the preview up. GO BRUINS!

Join me on the Hockey Blog Adventure! (or Twitter.) GO BRUINS! (and Wild!)

by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 16, 2009 9:35 AM EST reply actions  

Also maybe the Bruins were caught in a gordon-esque shootout since half the current roster played for him (or so it feels).

Join me on the Hockey Blog Adventure! (or Twitter.) GO BRUINS! (and Wild!)

by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 16, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I suppose since you’re linking to my blog I better go put the preview up.

Haha. It’s blogging “backside pressure.”

I’d say the Isles WILL TAKE THE BRUINS DOWN! tonight, but I can talk myself into and out of any scenario five times in 20 minutes. Having a competitive team through 20 games toys with my psyche far more than last year’s resigned “Any win is a bonus” approach.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 16, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I have hope but little faith in the Bruins winning games right now. Defensively they are (usually) pretty sound but it all depends on if they can score or not. I’m hoping yes but…..

Join me on the Hockey Blog Adventure! (or Twitter.) GO BRUINS! (and Wild!)

by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 16, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m glad that if you’re digging up the pooh bear you’re also rocking the fishsticker.

We’re nothing if not fair, here at the All-Drug Olympics.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 16, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

several things

1) If we get a lead, we must hold it

2) We must play a consistent 60 minutes

3) We must get 60 minutes of good goaltending

4) We must at least get one point

by BCISLEMAN on Nov 16, 2009 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

the bear looks genuinely sad to me… as if he’s watching a forest go up in flames
where as, we have the Poseidon of Long Island standing menacingly with his Popeye-esque gritted teeth and dastardly slicker and hat… no way we can lose this game!

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Nov 16, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

I'm on board with that

Great descriptions. Say what you will about the tenets of an aqua Stan Fischler fisherman, at least he has an ethos: Nobody no-how gonna get to the front of this net.

That bear, it’s all emo. You tickle its belly and instead of giggle it will ask, “Who can think of tickling when people are dying for blood diamonds?”

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 16, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The fisherman has his eyes closed. He is angry, sound and fury signifying nothing. The bear is patient. It watches. It waits. The hunt is on. The gentle eyes lull you into a sense of complacency, and then – BOOM! PJ STOCK ATTACK

Join me on the Hockey Blog Adventure! (or Twitter.) GO BRUINS! (and Wild!)

by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 16, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Tsk tsk. That bear is all vanity, obsessed with propper shading of his browns and such. And you know he’s got faux goth gear on, which is why they only used his head.

Fisherman doesn’t care about appearances. He just lets the beard grow wild and unabomber-like, ‘cause he’s got prey to catch and a storm to steer through. And team owners to toss in jail.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 16, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

no no no, you don’t lull and attack, you stand on a rock waiting for a fish to jump into your mouth, that (while very cool) is no way to win a contest vs a professional fisherman :-)

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Nov 16, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully Jon Sim will be featured with 20 mins of TOI tonight. Gordon really makes some odd lineup/playing time decisions. By “odd,” I mean “awful.”

by AP77 on Nov 16, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

I'll bite

Decisions with whom? I can quibble around the edges, but mostly he’s playing with the cards he’s been dealt, and Sim is generally getting 4th-line minutes.

To me they’ve got a pool of candidates for top 9 that’s pretty clear, and it’s just a matter of maximizing the combos among them, which probably requires a lot of tinkering and parenting:
Moulson/Tavares/Okposo
Tambellini/Nielsen/Hunter
Bergenheim/Bailey/Comeau/Park/Schremp

But as long as the GM keeps Sim around, the coach probably has to use him and throw him the occasional bone.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 16, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, sure, I was just teasing Gordon a bit. To be sure, it’s not like he is mismanaging an all-star roster here.

But the whole Tambellini thing is perplexing, as is the (rather) consistent playing time for Sim, Thompson, and the like. I’d prefer if those guys never saw the ice.

But I guess there are some kind of personality issues to be managed, e.g., never playing Sim might be bad for morale, etc.

by AP77 on Nov 16, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

if sim would actually contribute to the scoresheet here and there, this wouldn’t be an issue, but yes, its’ been as frustrating for us to watch as it’s been for him to live through these missed chances… still don’t think he’s been unworthy of a roster spot, but the 2nd line and 2nd pp team was a reach

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Nov 16, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

While he at least went into this year with a different approach than the one he took last year, I suspect Sim thinks he’d be scoring if only he got time with better linemates. Which may be true to some extent (surely JT helps you more than Nate Thompson), but you gotta earn those looks, and he’s not. Like you said, when he’s had prime scoring chances, he’s come up empty.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 16, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha. I don’t know why Tambellini’s scratch timeouts are always for multiple games.

But the whole Tambellini thing is perplexing, as is the (rather) consistent playing time for Sim, Thompson, and the like. I’d prefer if those guys never saw the ice.
Yeah, I’m always of two minds (some would say zero mind) on this, because somebody has to use up the scrap minutes and be a competent faceoff man (Thompson) and designated Too Many Men penalty server, and guys like Tamby can get in a funk when they only get 10 minutes. When it comes to the 4th line, I don’t think it’s as simple as tossing the 10th/11th/12th best forwards out there since they’ll be used in specific roles.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 16, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

So now that Joensuu has had a good game can we call him up? Just kidding but it seems the farm is in a funk. I’m so glad we are replenishing our farm team instead of sacraficing the youngsters for mid level salary dumps. I just wish we could fast forward a couple of years and see a more well rounded farm team.

Let me state this first…I am not a Sim sympathist nor have I ever been but I have noticed one thing about his play. He is a constant pressure person regardless of the fact that he couldn’t hit an open net from 5 feet out. Therefore I can see Go-Go leaving him in from the standpoint that he needs to show the rest of the team that taking a shift (or the second period as of late) off and let the other team tie up the game/win is unacceptable. If the team could play a solid 3 periods I don’t think you would see Sim very much.

I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.

by metalcoconut on Nov 16, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

Barring injuries...

I don’t think we’ll see much of our Bridgeport Elites until after the deadline….and if we are on the bubble or better then maybe not even that.

by BCISLEMAN on Nov 16, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

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