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Ex-Isles Gazing: Checking in on...wait, *O'Marra*?!

A look at how some randomly selected former Islanders properties are doing. Alternatively: a look at a bunch of Oilers players and alumni.

I'd heard a few headlines here and there about former Islanders doing things that got them traded in the first place -- Robert Nilsson not scoring, Marc-Andre Bergeron returning to the margins, etc. -- and then stumbled upon the news that Ryan O'Marra has indeed played his first NHL game (six minutes, minus-1).

To hear some Oilers fans tell it, O'Marra's stunning promotion came not by merit but by "why the hell not?" injury necessity. And why necessity? Aside from the Oilers' flu issues making the Islanders look spry and healthy, the handsome Mr. Nilsson is out with a concussion. Desperate times, man.

How was Nilsson doing before being concussed, by the way? This:


GP G A P +/- PIM PPG Hits TOI PPtoi SOG PCT
2009 - Robert Nilsson 12 1 3 4 -12 0 1 6 12:45
1:39
13 7.7

And how is the guy we rented for these characters -- oh, those heady 2007 days -- doing? Not too shabby:

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GP G A P +/- PIM PPG TOI PPtoi SHtoi SOG PCT
2009 - Ryan Smyth 19 9 13 22 8 8 5 20:44 4:03
1:15
58 15.5

Smyth's 22 points are good for second on the Kings -- behind league leader Anze Kopitar's absurd 30 -- and good for a tie for 5th-most in the league. Once thought to be headed to the "power forward accelerated decline," Smyth has clearly made use of his Keep It Simple Stupid style and quality teammates to be one of the summer's better acquisitions.

A look at the Oiler-Islander time warp shuttle would not be complete without a look in on Mike Comrie, part of their flu brigade ...


GP G A P +/- PIM PPG GWG TOI PPtoi SOG PCT
2009 - Mike Comrie 14 5 3 8 -3 10 2 0 14:12 3:14
23 21.7


... nor on Marc-Andre Bergeron, whose second game with the Canadiens featured his familiar booming shot raining down on the Islanders during Habs powerplays (he got a goal and an assist, naturally). They'd found their interim PP QB, hadn't they?

Stop me if you've heard this before, but: No.


GP G A P +/- PIM PPG GWG TOI PPtoi
SOG PCT
2009 - Marc-Andre Bergeron 11 2 1 3 -5 4 2 1
15:37 2:31
20 10.0

It was always going to be a stretch for a coach like Jacques Martin to take a liking to a player like Bergeron. Jacques Lemaire did his best with the Wild, but ultimately even Lemaire Love didn't take.

After a promising start that is Bergeron's trademark, his minutes in Montreal dropped for a couple of games (10:37 one night, 12:54 another). They've since inched back up, so it's folly to write him off after such a small sample. Plus, the Habs haven't drawn many powerplays during an offense-challenged, three-game losing streak.

But from the outside looking in, it appears Bergeron is just being Bergeron. That sample-caveat in mind, in relative +/-, he's been their worst 5-on-5 defenseman not in the AHL. But, well, shots happen when he's on the ice, more toward the other net than his own. The question is what position is he in after those shots happen, and why does the other team score?

The Habs plucked Jay Leach off waivers, and Ryan O'Byrne is nearing a return to health. For Bergeron, the future is likely: "same as it ever was."

And of course, a mention of Bergeron necessitates a look at...yeah:


GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2009 - Denis Grebeshkov 19 3 7 10 -7 16 1 0 0 0 22 13.6

Denis Grebeshkov, in a critical year (he's an RFA next summer, making $3.15 million right now). The jury is still out on whether he will build off last season, but he doesn't look too shabby on a struggling undermanned team at the moment.

*  *  *

Any other ex-Islanders (recent or distant) you're keeping an eye on? They do always seem to be scattered near and far (Yashin: 7-20-27 in 23 games for St. Petersburg), so it's impossible to know when to start and where to end. (And it's okay; you can bring up ex-Isles with no ties to Edmonton.)

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why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Nov 12, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve said this before, but I like the idea of Palffy riding off into the sunset while being a hero at home. Sure he’s more talented than that league, but maybe his injury troubles just weren’t going to stay away in the busier, more physical NHL. Regardless, not a bad life.

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by Dominik on Nov 12, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

oh now it's just not funny, this league can't be real...

Dom, did you happen to see who’s ahead of Yashin? by 2 points in 1 less game…i wish i could unsee sometimes…

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why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Nov 12, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

?!

That is hilarious. Damn, wish I’d scanned the full leaderboard.

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by Dominik on Nov 12, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

How about Micheal Rupp? Playing 4th line for the Pens, 5 points in 18 games and a .211 shooting percentage.

Also, This might be a bit off tangent. But I was thinking about doing a story about Berard being the Isles former Calder Trophy winner. I never realized this, but not only did Milbury trade him for Potvin, Potvin only played 33 games as an Islander, across 2 seasons. That trade might be worse then the Luongo-Olli trade. At least Kvasha and Parrish had potential and one could argue Olli had been a bust.

by Mark D on Nov 12, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

Good call. I actually heard a Pens announcer raving about Rupp the other night.

All tangents welcome! I thought about digging into some of Milbury’s castoff for this one, but there are so many to choose from. That really was a hideous trade, and very Milbury: A rising talent for a “proven” diminishing one.

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by Dominik on Nov 12, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

One of my Favs, Jason Krog is still tearing it up in the AHL, this year with the Wolves (making him teammates with Chelios). He’s got 9 points in 11 games, just about in line with his AHL average of a point a game.

by Mark D on Nov 12, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, so he’s 34 now, huh? I didn’t realize he saw time with Vancouver last year. What a journey.

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by Dominik on Nov 12, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Camppli

Islanders Outsider, blogging here and there.

by Islanders Outsider on Nov 12, 2009 11:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Uh, Campoli I mean

How about all that PP time Chris is getting in Ottawa?

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by Islanders Outsider on Nov 12, 2009 11:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ha! Hadn’t thought of that in a while. Made me look. Guess he’s not the 1st choice for the point there either.

I wonder if Kovalev gets time on the point there? For Campoli, that’d be like the Weight signing all over again.

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by Dominik on Nov 13, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Josef Vasicek

Liked him while he was here. 10 goals & 10 assists in 20 games so far this year with Yaroslavl Lokomotiv (KHL).

by captain2man on Nov 13, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

Ooh, nice. I hadn’t thought about him in a while, but I really liked him, too. I could have handled seeing another year of him.

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by Dominik on Nov 13, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked JoVas. :)

Lets go Islanders...

by TheMetalChick on Nov 13, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

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