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Been busy on some other things, so no major thesis or probing question today. Hoping to add a news widget to the left-margin, but I have to tinker with that still before the porridge is juuust right. Mean time, here's stuff goin' on with the Isles and various other headcases before the road trip begins tomorrow in Washington:

Off the Island: Crazy Goalies.

Already FanShotted Scott Clemmensen's hilarious inability to adjust to life away from the Devils system, but J.S. Giguere's lament about "having fun" only when he's starting, and preferring retirement to a backup role, had me laughing and thinking of Clemmensen all over again.

Dear NHL goalies: Your job is hard, this we know. But there are only 30-60 of them available, so you might accept that no one is entitled to diddly squat, and hope your bosses don't look to Europe for a guy who's both good and glad to be here.

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Funny thing is I can kinda feel for Giguere

He really was one of the better goalies in the league that never got his due respect. At least from the fans and the writers for being a top notch goaltender.

by Chickendirt on Nov 10, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

any player who’s team blast’s " Gettin Jiggy wit it " for the crowd when he starts, well, i cannot respect that sorry, lol

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Nov 10, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know, he won a Conn Smythe on the Cup finals’ losing team — I’d call that respect. I actually think he does get a lot of attention for his good streaks. He’s also had a lot of funks that get glossed over because people remember 2003 and his other good times.

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by Dominik on Nov 10, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Personally, I don’t think he deserved the 2003 Conn Smythe. Their GAA and SV% was very close, and Brodeur managed 2 more shutouts (7 to 5) then Giugere. Plus Brodeur had a shutout in game 7 to win it.

by WebBard on Nov 10, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was a tough call, but wasn’t terribly bothered by it. Clearly it wasn’t awarded just for the finals performance, but also for his ridiculous efforts to get that team through three rounds to get there. His performance against Detroit that year was insane and almost worth a trophy in itself.

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by Dominik on Nov 10, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's one thing to win an award like that

and another thing to actually get the respect. I thinik Osgood is another tender that really doesn’t get the respect he deserves around the league (He does in Detroit from his team at least).

Osgood has also had his slumps. Overall I think those two are pretty solid big game goalteanders. Never had the numbers for the Vezina but pretty lights out when it matters.

Overall, pro athletes are not much different than artists, film makers and musicians. Sometimes the recognition means just as much if not more than the paycheck. Especailly goaltending where focus and concentration is a big part of it and makes it like an art.

by Chickendirt on Nov 10, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I pick on Osgood with the worst of them, but two things that have made that sustainable: 1) He has let in some epically awful goals at crucial moments (often being bailed out by his team afterward). 2) His slumps can be just miserable.

But he does get it together often when it matters, so he has something figured out.

Good point about goalies and artists. Very true. … And they’re all flakes! (I kid. My family’s full of artists, so we do a lot of razzing.)

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by Dominik on Nov 10, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Along with my hatred of the Red Wings, I thought Osgood was the most overrated goalie of all time. When I heard the Isles grabbed him off waivers I figured he’d show up, have a sub 900 SV% and 3 or 4 GAA.

Since his time with the Islanders, to me he’s proven that he’s not just a product of the Red Wings. He’s probably the one goalie since Healy I’d actually wear an Isles jersey of.

by WebBard on Nov 10, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Giguere is making himself sound like a real jerk:

…“Something needs to happen,” Giguere said. “You get a guy like (Hiller) that’s going to be a free agent at the end of the year and myself, making the money I’m making, either I’m leaving or he’s leaving.”

I mean WTH? You know Im sure the organizaiton isnt thrilled with him not being the goalie they are paying him to be, too- they arent coming out and saying things like this to the media about it are they?

Lets go Islanders...

by TheMetalChick on Nov 10, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that organization has been more than patient with him and has taken care of him with a hefty salary.

Not that it’s a huge gesture to be there for him when his dad died last year and while he’s caring for a kid with medical needs, but … they don’t owe him the starting job when he’s not playing up to form.

Reminds me of Luongo’s “I’ll retire if they change” equipment/goal dimensions bit from a couple of years ago. Like, really? Go ahead. ’Cause there are other goalies itching for a shot…

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by Dominik on Nov 10, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Get ready to.....

 - bring on those music-related riffs on his name! Seriously, would it be SO crazy to bring Harmonic – and deHaan – up now?

by ogam5 on Nov 10, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bone thugz and Harmonic

Probably not de Haan. But you do wonder at this point what more Harmonic has to prove. Hope he turns pro before this year is out.

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by Dominik on Nov 11, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if his folks had a sense of humor

they would have named him Phillip

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Nov 11, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice.

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by Dominik on Nov 11, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

de haan been struggling of late btw… our hottest OHL’er is Cizikas right now

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Nov 11, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

anyway about Moulson...

the one link I opened went into a whole history of NHL line names. I am hoping that the Moulson—Tavares—Okposo line gets the moniker Golden after the Canadian beer. What do you think?

by BCISLEMAN on Nov 10, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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