Tambellini and the Garth Snow lynch mob.
by Chickendirt on Nov 1, 2009 3:45 PM EST
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Reason why I ask this is because we have seen this scenario play out before. In the nineties there were a lot of young players drafted and brought up through the system that struggled for a few seasons. All of them traded, save one, and went on to have success with other organization. It seems that in reviewing that time period lots of folks dismiss the fact that these same players struggled here, some of them struggled for a few more seasons in other organizations, before finding success.
I am not ready to crown Tambellini has a player that has finally cracked through either. What I am trying to enter into here is that players take time, struggle and more often than not, go through the motions before finally becoming successful NHL players. The Crosbys, Malkins and Ovechkins of the league are not the rule, they are the exceptions. Most players take time, many seasons, before realizing their potential.
Recently I've read a lot in Islanders Nations from fans who think Bailey needs time in the AHL and was rushed out of juniors into the NHL. REALLY?!?!?!?!?!!?!?! What good does it serve to send a player to a level where he is already dominating to make that player into a better one? You get better in this game by moving up a level and figuring it out. You don't become a better NHL player by spending more time in the AHL or Juniors where you are already dominating. What happens is players get used to that and have a tougher time adjusting when they struggle at a much higher level.
My hope more than anything is for people, before jumping the gun on these players, to show a little patience. I'm not talking about one season because it takes more than one season to develop a player. I've read from a a few scouts that it takes 300 games on the NHL level to really develop these guys. That's about 3.5 seasons worth of games if you do the math.
And just for closers: There's another player playing in the NHL right now that has scored the most points since the lockout that a lot folks were saying was rushed into the NHL at a young age; Joe Thornton.
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Ha, love it! I knew this would be coming, after your history of pleading patience for Tambellini. Amen to patience. Amen to the reality that it takes most players several years to find their place. I don’t know why people knee-jerk on Bailey, when he’s so young.
I admit I’ve gone back-and-forth on what I think Tambellini’s future will be more times than a politician. But the last 8 months is the only time I’ve seen him on a sustained, regular basis, and I obviously like the evolution he’s shown. I hope he keeps it up.
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Given that if it is true that it takes 300 games to develop a player
Tambellini is at the halfway point. He’s at 152. It really is no surprise that he’s finding ways to better his game and having a little success there. And again, I don’t hold that he’s arrived yet.
But looking at his play now vs the beginning of last season there is a development there. Especially his play away from the puck. That’s what you want to see.
Even more interesting is that Tambellini in a recent interview considers last season his first real NHL season.
there is a development there. Especially his play away from the puck. That’s what you want to see.
Indeed.
Even more interesting is that Tambellini in a recent interview considers last season his first real NHL season.
I noticed that, too. Two realities, it seems: How they view the process internally, and how the pundits and knee-jerk fans viewed it.
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My feeling was that Jeff deserved one more genuine shot this year...
he has too much natural ability and talent not to give him that. That is why I was concerned when Schremp came along and seemed to be crowding Jeff out of playing time. If Jeff turns into the real deal this year, we might actually give serious consideration to a trade down if we get the #1.
how can i get excited about this kid.......
when he doesn’t even get 1st star in the game (relax people i’m joking)
in all honesty the reason i am starting to buy into him is not because he smoked home 6 goals in such a short span, but the way in which he got them…
success breeds success and you can tell these kids are starting to feel it
bailey’s goal was a prime example, first time all year i saw him practically beg for the puck coming down from the point, and 2 weeks ago he looks to make a play and dish it off but here he was all about ripping it top shelf
Q for Dom/Chicken/BC : how many posts has JT hit so far this year? i can remember 3 distinctly, but vaguely i think i remember 5 or 6 in total anyone remember more accurately than me???
in all honesty the reason i am starting to buy into him is not because he smoked home 6 goals in such a short span, but the way in which he got them…
Exactly. He is showing up in areas that were previously foreign to him at this level.
On Tavares’s posts: Oh, my god, so many. I suppose a sniper will do that because he can hit spots so well, but my god the luck.
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Recently I’ve read a lot in Islanders Nations from fans who think Bailey needs time in the AHL and was rushed out of juniors into the NHL. REALLY?!?!?!?!?!!?!?! What good does it serve to send a player to a level where he is already dominating to make that player into a better one? You get better in this game by moving up a level and figuring it out. You don’t become a better NHL player by spending more time in the AHL or Juniors where you are already dominating. What happens is players get used to that and have a tougher time adjusting when they struggle at a much higher level.
The only argument Im going to bring up in response to this is that Bailey has never spent ANY time in the AHL and has therefore never dominated there. Juniors is not the same as the AHL- if it was, youd see far more quick transitions than you do. The AHL is a professional league.
Lets go Islanders...
I probably should clarify that I was extrapolating
based in preseason performance that Bailey would dominate in the AHL. He was mostly facing AHL players and NHL players in the preseason. I was mainly looking at that and my analysis there was in the context of a conversation Dominik and I were having a few months ago.
Word.
The Islanders made their bed by keeping him up last year, so even though he’s never been in the AHL, I don’t think it’d be the right move. He’s growing, learning, adjusting at this level — and he’s not the kind of kid whose confidence is going to be shattered here — so we just need to be patient.
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