Tavares scores in debut as Islanders drop shootout point
Well, that was not ideal, but it sure was cool.
Regardless of the disappointing ending in the NHL's coin-flip bonus point round -- you'd hope Tavares would convert his shootout attempt while Crosby would miss his, instead of vice versa -- this Islanders home opener was one fine game in front of one fine crowd.
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The line of John Tavares/Kyle Okposo/Matt Moulson was dynamic and dangerous all night long, giving us another hint that the Islanders have two stars in the making. Tavares seemed to tire by the third period -- hopefully from first night adrenaline excess rather than anything else -- but Scott Gordon kept running him out there (22:05 total TOI, 47% on faceoffs) with the game on the line.
Tavares not only gave a loud home crowd his first career point, with a helper on the powerplay; he gave us his first-ever goal on a play we'll expect to see more of: Corralling the puck in tight, lifting a sweet backhand over Marc-Andre Fleury. (video after the jump)
If this were a storybook, Tavares would have then potted the winner in OT or on that shootout breakaway. Instead, he missed his second breakaway and fired his shootout attempt awkwardly wide, while Crosby calmly slipped the puck by Dwayne Roloson at a slow "breakaway" speed that can only happen in the NHL after 65 minutes of actual competitive, real hockey has been played.
I remember seeing Sidney Crosby in his early days and noting each learning step he took while adjusting to the world's elite league. I forgot just how interesting it can be to watch a budding star push and probe his way with baby steps. When Tavares has the puck, there's already an electricity in the air, and you can see defenders test the waters of how to play him.
It was also nice to have a bona fide NHL starting goalie in there. Roloson had a few fat rebounds and shaky moments, but overall he played his angles with poise and confidence. That the two final Penguins goals were on fluky bounces means I have no quarrel with Roloson on this night. He did his job.
Of course, Fleury did his job better -- by stopping Tavares on a real-time breakaway and by giving him little daylight to shoot at in the bonus round. So the Pens took the majority of points, but the Isles left their fans eagerly looking for more.
Meanwhile, Jay McKee's reaction to Brendan Witt's hard but legal open-ice hit on ol' buddy Ruslan Fedotenko was as ill-advised as it was predictable. Also ill-advised yet somewhat familiar: Veteran Billy Guerin getting into it with youngster Kyle Okposo late in a tie game, ultimately taking a stupid slashing penalty to give the Isles a late powerplay. Come on McNulty, you're better than that. You just got schooled by a sophomore.
Roundups
- Understatement of the weekend: Arthur Staple thinks Tavares could be good.
- Charles Wang's Oct. 3 deadline passed, of course. Begin the not-so-subtle bidding as everyone waits on Kate and friends.
- Katie Strang's wrapup includes some good quotes on the type of hockey this team expects to play.
- All night, nhl.com played up the Kid vs. the "Next Kid" show.
- Frank has the Penguins perspective at Pensburgh.
Sights and Sounds
Wow, there were many cool Penguins fans, but their presence was soiled by several straight-up d-bags. I hate this: I met so many Pens fans who were fun to exchange thoughts with, yet it's the vile weasels I'll end up remembering months later.
You know David Spade's drunk sorority character from SNL who is an incessantly crying drunk? That's what select drunk fans were like: Obnoxious, incoherent, and frequently tossed by security for trying to start fights or for continuing to unleash sailor language around children despite repeated requests to take a wee reality check. A pity that this mixed box of tools made Pens fans seem so trashy by association. I know it happens all the time, but I'll regret it all the time just the same. D-bags of the world: Learn to hold your liquor, or else drink tea.
The funniest simplistic chant from a couple of the slobbery drunk bastards was "Stan-ley Cup, Stan-ley Cup." A brief glance at the rafters by your average literate folk would indicate that the Islanders fanbase is actually quite familiar with the Cup, four times over, in fact -- and without a single tank job to achieve it. But I got the impression that these frat boys wouldn't remember that any more than they'd remember 1993, the year of an upset that is currently the difference between their club having a fourth Cups of their own. Whatever, though; hockey overcomes bad drunks every time.
... If the "John-Ta-var-es" chants were loud in pregame, the roof absolutely blew off when the touted rookie netted his first-ever goal.
... Trent Hunter's one-timer from the left faceoff circle: Hello, missile. Shame it didn't stand.
Speaking of which, great screen by Hunter on Mark Streit's powerplay goal (created by the McKee incident), and great job by Hunter to grab the puck on Tavares' first career goal before the red light had even turned on.
... Nice to see Josh Bailey at par, 8-for-16 on faceoffs. If he and Tavares each end up being solid on faceoffs, I'll feel a lot better about this minor detail in the Islanders' future.
Personal Notes
My hosts were great, the fans I met were great, the building was great -- as much as the Isles need a new building, there is something special about the sound that these old, simple barns can create. It was sincerely great to meet a lot of people I've been in touch with online; every one was every bit as cool as I expected. Y'all are stars.
We ended up taking the train too late to make tailgating, so I didn't meet everyone I wanted to meet. But that's why there's a next time.
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A lot of positives...
Rolli looked great and is going to keep us in games, JT looks to be the real deal but needs work on his breakaway/shootout moves, Bailey and Tambellini look to have taken huge steps forward.
They could have used Schremp in the lineup simply for the shootout.
Islanders fans “hoped” Tavares would convert that shootout attempt. Pens fans “feared” it.
In all honesty, the kid put on a great show last night. Could you have asked for a better performance in his first game in the NHL? His goal wasn’t “pretty” but it was exactly what you wanna see a guy do. That breakaway attempt he had on Fleury had me on the edge of my seat. But Fleury has really been coming up big with that glove since robbing Ovechkin in the playoffs last season. Even against the Rangers he flashed the same move to rob Prospal on a 2-on-1.
Nice as it is to see, as we mentioned yesterday in the thread, a defenseman isn’t doing his job.
And hey, the Isles defense did an exceptionally good job of building a wall around Roloson. When the Pens can’t get shots through they have to change up their game ASAP and start crashing the net. fortunately that worked out with Fedotenko, but just barely. You’re not gonna get luck like that every night.
See you guys and gals again on November 27.
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There was a lot of nervous excitement. At no point did any Pens fan doubt what Sid was capable of but it was almost hard to wait it out, ya know? Like, you could feel the change around the team. Having seen the Islanders for a while now you could hear it and see it for last night’s game as well. It’s a buzz – the sort of thing that starts bringing casual fans back to the arena.
As for how the Islanders used JT compared to the Pens’ use of Sid, I’d say it’s about the same. Some PP opportunities, obviously even strength chances – he’s coming along on the same path. I’d have to watch him play a few more times of course but I’d say after just this one game he seems to be taking the same course.
Oh, and you’re bound to see him get rocked around a bit too. A few instances last night Tavares was sent down to the ice. That’ll happen. Just remember it’s just the new kid getting his knocks.
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A lot of folks are raving about him with Okposo. I am more inclined to see him between Hunts and Moulson—to have them be his Hodge and Cashman and get the puck to him in the slot. They are also big enough boys that they can quickly retaliate against anyone who crosses the line.
My thought is that they are one player away on offense and several on defense—depending on how some of the prospects in the system pan out to say nothing of enjgmas like Tambellini and Moulson.
What’s funny is I really can’t remember who the Pens paired Crosby with during his rookie campaign. I think one of the wingers was Colby Armstrong but I don’t know who the other guy was. Blanking right now. Either way, it helps to have at least one guy who can really work with the rook and perhaps another guy who can stand up for him – a bodyguard of sorts. Armstrong was both of those things for Crosby. The two of them just worked well together and Army wasn’t afraid to lay a big hit or drop the mitts. It’s killing me right now that I can’t think of who was on the other flank…
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Of course after I submit that comment I think it came to mind – Mark Recchi
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Turns out in the postgame that not only did JT and Moulson have a history, but that they were childhood friends!!! No disrespect to Recchi who I like, but JT has more talent on his RW at least than Sid did. Scouts compared Okposo to Iginla when he was coming up. I have done a fanshot with a link to an NHL.COM article comparing JT’s first game with Sid’s, Mario’s, and others.
I liked Recchi too but I don’t think he had the skills to go along with Sid’s. By that I mean speed mainly. It’s good to get a guy that meshes with your star. The past couple of years have been all about who will play alongside Crosby. This year’s number-one line of Kunitz-Crosby-Guerin was not even a consideration last season. After all, only one of those guys was even on the Pens at the start of last season. Funny to think a move in December and one move at the trade deadline brought a whole new top line into Pittsburgh for this season.
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I guess that’s always been your problem. Sid and Malkin are so good and, as a result, so expensive, that it is hard to fit in quality wings especially after you add Gonchar and Fleury to the mix.
That is a problem the Isles may face a few years down the road. We certainly hope our top prospects like JT, Kyle, and Josh catch fire to say nothing of other young players like Moulson, Tambellini, Bergenheim and our defensive prospects like De Haan, Ness, and Niemi. And we would like to get another great talent like Taylor Hall or Teemu Pulkinnen in this year’s draft. A few years from now, however, as they become RFAs, we may have a tough time keeping them unless we get the same sort of spirit that Detroit seems to have with great players adjusting salary demands in order to win.
Yeah, Fleury was huge last night.
I thought the Pens did a good job of mixing up their approaches. Every time they needed to tie, it was the Crosby-Malkin 1-2 punch that had me nervous as hell. Like you said, even if that isn’t working, it can lead to havoc and crashing the net.
It’s just nice this year to have a goalie with a decent chance of withstanding that storm.
Fun game — I hope the next meeting is as close!
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love the system
whatever Gordon feeding them its working. Its nice to see everyone on the same page and in all honestly we dont look like a last place. One thing that was troubling it seemed that we got tired in the later paart of the 3rd where I thought we would dominate. But on the bright side we do have Weight and Comeau returning and an outside chance of Shremp helping out to give our first line a break, and contribute a little more than what Rechlz and thompson gave them.
I agree. This year doesn’t look like a last place year. But here’s hoping that doesn’t jinx it! I loved what I saw last nite! So much better than I feared. Okposo was killer! Tavares was better than I predicted. Oldies came thru and proved that only the best stayed on the team (park,hunt,streit,). I have to admit I doubted the rebuild but it looks to be turning out to be brilliant. I’m very pleased so far! I wish I could post pics here I took so many at the game with my iPhone!
by LI2Brnx on Oct 4, 2009 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Okposo was a beast
this is the guy whose comming off a concussion and didnt practise often this week. Wow he seemed to almost dominate the game eery time he had the puck, very impressed.
Islanders out of Long Island
I be shocked if the Isles move, I believe it is just part of the process to go through, I hope I am right. Wow I still remember Nystrom scoring the game winner in OT back in 80 I am getting old I think that was the right year. Tavares played well, Crosby is one of the most exciting players in the game his acceleration is tops like a Pat Lafontaine. I am bias with Crosby I grew up in Cole Harbour, NS and knew of his father, and he is god there. Isles need all cylinders going to compete, Bailey was quiet from what I saw of the game and in an 82 game season everybody needs to be pitching in.
BC is wang in the picture
Do u see wang still the owner or does he sell the team to someone
A guy in Newsday made a valid point. If I am somebody considering an investment in a hockey team, I look at what happened to Balsillie in Phoenix. He had a deal in place with backing to move a moribund team with no history of winning and no fanbase to a brand new arena in the center of the hockey universe—and the NHL stopped him with help from Judge Baum. I look at the problems Wang is having with the ToH as well and then i say to myself, I need another investment option!!!
In other words, I do not think that buyers are going to be falling all over Wang to grab the Islanders up. As I say, the more likely scenario is for him to move the team to Queens, getting the team on a better financial footing, and then perhaps selling to a buyer who will keep the team in place.
Bettmen mentioned he will not approve a move of this team unless until Wang
exhausts all his resources.
His latest stunt, pulling an all or none on Murray, is not going to bode well for him. There’s a lot of dirty and dishonest stuff going on here and lately, cause Wang hasn’t be forthright with the fans, the spotlight is starting to shine on him. He hung up on Kate Murray Friday night, the day before his deadline,
Wang has to grow up a little bit here. Murray, Wang, the fans as well as the residents living there all have needs and concerns that need to be considered. Even after this project is approved, things are gonna come up, worker safety issues are gonna arrise and folks are gonna have to find ways to work together and find solutions.
No project goes according to plan. Especially one of this scale and magnititude.
Murray is just playing games. She is never going to approve this project and Wang knows it. The word in Newsday was that he agreed to meet with her next week on Friday on the sole condition that she not release word of it to the press—which word she promptly went back on.
LightHouse—at least the Uniondale version of it—is dead as a door nail. Bettman’s only worry is that the team would move from the NY area. As long as they stay in NY, he will be happy as a clam. See you on the #7 train!
You feel Wang is being totally transparent here?
BD Gallof is not longer selling that angle. Wang is fucking around also pulling his my way or the highway bullshit. Murray’s call was to talk about amending some of the development, which before even hearing her out, is not even open to discussion.
I’m not calling Murray innocent here either. At the end of the day, the real victims in this game are us, the fans and the TOH residents.
Also, Wang has involved the public in this. If he wants public support why is he concealing all his conversations with Murray? At least, why does he want some of them concealed?
Mainly, because this project is not just about the Islanders. or the fans. It’s about a my way or the highway mentality that Wang has just to make a buck. The Islanders are property, just like us the fans, to further manipulate the process. All Wang really cares about is making a buck.
lets, for once, look at this objectivly. In 2015, the Islanders lease at the colliseum is up. There is no reason to keep them there. With that in mind Wang could easily just build a new arena from the ground up. With that, he would get to keep all the concessions, parking, ticket revenues, Concert and even profits. Not to mention the money from corporate naming rights.
ANd to get this done, and ensure the Islanders survival on Long Island, It would cost him a whole fuck of a lot less than the 3.8 billion dollar behemoth he is proposing now.
I think they both have been playing chicken. Neither wants to give in to the other. In Murray’s case, however, I do not believe that she has ever intended to greenlight this project. She has been going along with it just far enough that most of the voters will not blame her when the Islanders leave.
Wang should begin negotiation with Queens. If that doesn’t get Murray and her minions to cooperate, then he should move forward with the Queens venue as quickly as possible. I personally think that situating a new arena adjacent to CitiField and the US Open venue with access to the LIRR and NYC Transit will greatly expand the fanbase and be good for the team.
With a better product on the ice as well as an up to date and accessible arena, the Islanders should become a more appealing prospect for a new owner who is more dedicated to the team and doesn’t regard it as just another investment.
Wang's hardly an unblemished saint
But I don’t think he’s out of line to be impatient at this point. From his perspective, he bought the team 10 years ago, yet the municipality that sorely needs a new venue but can’t afford to build it is still dicking him around. All the hoops he’s jumped through, all the start-up investment… That’s a simplified version, but I’m sure it’s informing his decisions.
Ultimately, negotiations are always handicapped when mistrust creeps in, and these two sides are steeped in mistrust of one another.
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Yes, Wang can be a so and so as he proved with Neil Smith for example. But Murray has been jerking him around from the get go. It seems clear to me that she will never do anything else.
That is why I say that it is time to cut the cards and deal. Wang should vigorously begin negotiating with Queens starting this week. He should move the negotiations far enough forward prior to election day that Murray starts to feel the heat.
Then if she still plays games, maybe the voters will realize what she is about and boot her butt out of office. Failing that, Wang should have a deal in place before the start of next season in Queens.
But Murray has been jerking him around from the get go. It seems clear to me that she will never do anything else.
A lot of people tell me that. I don’t rule it out, but it still sounds so insane to me that she could be that resistant. (That’s when people rightly tell me, “you don’t know Hempstead.”)
I don’t blame Wang for compromising at this point because it needs to be worth his while, and he has good reason to fear them mucking things up again and again. Besides, there is room for altering the plans later down the line.
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Wow, there were many cool Penguins fans, but their presence was soiled by several straight-up d-bags. I hate this: I met so many Pens fans who were fun to exchange thoughts with, yet it’s the vile weasels I’ll end up remembering months later.
As a Pens fan who was at the game, I have similiar feelings for the Islander fans. Some were cool but a few bad apples spoil the lot for both sides.
Like the guy who challenged me to fight in the parking lot, or the senile old man taunting me about “Game 3 of the Stanley Cup finals last year” (even though I tried to calmly explain he was mistaken, the Pens won both Game 3s against Detroit) and the other asses who had too much to drink and had ignorant or aggressive remarks. The minority of folks for sure, but still a shame.
Overall I had a great barn, my first trip to Long Island. Watching so many games at the Mellon you appreciate a certain charm for old buildings, no matter how much of a “dump” they may be.
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I can totally see that. Tools are tools in any color
Sorry to hear about the parking lot experience. That’s always lovely (“Oh yes, please sir, let us duel over the Relative Importance of the Team from My Area vs. the Team from Your Area.”(Obviously I didn’t mean it as any sweeping generalization against Pens fans, of whom I know too many to make the common stereotype that’s thrown against [insert locale here].)
There were just plenty festive Pens fans next to my section who were totally cool, joining in chants to counter the “Let’s Go Is-Lan-Ders.” But then three particular drunk douchebags made asses of themselves, got security to throw them out, got half the people in the area to focus on their antics rather than a home opener — AND had the net effect of taking the other Pens group’s cheers out of the game.
It’s like, you go into someone else’s house, you rile up the lowest common denominators among the locals — and you end up making all of your fellow fans a target. I’m just getting too old to have any patience for that stuff.
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Scary comment from Bettman
"Obviously everybody wants the decision that lets this project go forward and lets the fans and the people on Long Island know that there will be a newer, renovated arena here.
Here is the scary part:
In the absence of that, let’s put out efforts somewhere else if it’s not going to be a reality. Lack of a decision after all this time to me is inexplicable."
“…..Let’s put our efforts somewhere else…..”
It is almost saying it’s OK for the Isles to leave if they can’t get it done, in contrast to Phoenix where he is fighting tooth and nail to keep the team there( or at least out of Ball-Silly’s hands).
As for the game, I was great to see JT get his first goal, Witt honor The Code against multiple Penguins, unlike a certain coward who shall remain nameless.
It was disappointing to see the team pick up where it left off last season, blowing another third period lead. They blew 9 of them last season, worst in the league.
Strong words from Bettman, but I’m not any more worried than I was a week ago. This freaking dance, Bettman coming forward and acting like the team might move out of Uniondale is just the next step in the little jig.
The scariest thing for me is Murray possibly thinking she can successfully derail it without it hurting her politically.
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I think Bettman is talking that way because (1) he wants to put pressure on Murray and (2) he is fine with the team moving elsewhere in the NY metro area.
Agreed, but I’m sure he’d be talking this way even if the metro area didn’t provide other theoretical options. This is his role in this stage play. (And when I call it a “stage play,” I’m not ridiculing Wang — he’s almost been forced into these PR maneuvers at this point. But it’s still a script.)
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