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Islanders minute munchers, bench bums

It's still quite early; we shouldn't be using averages to read much into anything. But some of the Islanders' numbers after three games give me a few things to keep an eye on -- both in how Scott Gordon is using certain players and how the Islanders have achieved three regulation ties thus far.

First, the alarming thing (if you're into alarm at this early stage): 8 goals for, 9 goals against. Not the what, but the how: Half of their goals have come on the powerplay (4 for 17), including one successful 5-on-3. Meanwhile, all of their goals against have come at 5-on-5 (except for the 4-on-4 OT goal in Ottawa) -- which is great news for the penalty kill (10 for 10 so far), but not for a team's sustainable long-term success. Obviously the PK is going to lose 13-20% of its chances over the long haul. You don't want the team's day-to-day chances to depend on insane special teams and good refereeing. The ratio of PP/PK chances will likely level out a bit, even if Gordon's aggressive system should theoretically draw infractions from the other team.

Again, it's early, and I only bring this up because 5-on-5 was such a glaring weakness last year. But that's also to be expected of a developing team of thin or unproven depth. The Islanders have the horses to deliver effective special teams. The question is can they go 9-12 deep up front -- or, more worryingly, 4-6 deep on the blueline -- to keep the tables even at 5-on-5?

Meanwhile, 2-3 games is nothing, but I think we already see what Gordon intends for players like Rob Schremp, Jeff Tambellini, Sean Bergenheim and others.

Star-divide

It should be no surprise that Mark Streit leads the team in TOI with 26:52 per game. At forward, John Tavares and Kyle Okposo are both around 21 minutes. As the team's three best players, those guys are going to get the biggest minutes (in all three phases for Streit and Okposo).

Further down the minutes played list are some other things to watch:

The Shremp/Tambellini Duality

I've argued that Schremp and Tambellini, yet to appear in the same lineup, are vying for the same spot (2nd-line wing), but that's not exactly so. Understandably, Schremp thus far has been an all-or-nothing proposition: Either he becomes a 2nd-line scorer and powerplay specialist, or there may be no role for him. In two games, Schremp's had 3:15 of PP time per game -- not bad for the 2nd unit. Tambellini, on the other hand, got just 1:06 of scrap PP time in the opener, yet also 1:03 on the penalty kill -- again, we have a ridiculously small sample, but that continues a trend from last season's second half. As Gordon has talked in the past about Tambellini becoming a more complete player, I think Gordon sees a more versatile role for him. Perhaps a general plug-in on the PP and PK, but not a featured member of either unit.

Incidentally, Katie Strang had quotes from Gordon on Tambellini Sunday afternoon:

I asked  Gordon what Jeff Tambellini must show him to get back in the lineup, and he said that he doesn't have to show him anything. Gordon said he knows what Tambellini can do, and although he must still prove himself a goalscorer, he's been the odd man out because of the numbers game. Since plucking Schremp off waivers, Gordon wants to see what he can do and help him assimilate to the system.

I think that, plus the need for physicality, tells us why Tambellini didn't fill in when Trent Hunter and Doug Weight were injured yesterday: They'd already decided to dress Joel Rechlicz, and with Rechlicz being a three-minute guy, that opens a lot of non-powerplay minutes. They probably wanted someone who could take faceoffs and be a dedicated defensive forward; thus, re-enter Nate Thompson.

But About That Fourth Line

As he was all last year, Tim Jackman appears to be the guy who will get the least minutes (or second-least whenever a pure enforcer is in the lineup). He's averaged 7:30 per game in three games so far, the only man besides Rechlicz who's under 13 minutes. Thompson, on the other hand, is a go-to penalty killer when he's in the lineup, and he's averaged nearly three minutes on that unit in his two games.

Sean Bergenheim: The Other 'What's My Role?' Guy

And who's had the smallest dose of ice time outside of Rechlicz, Jackman and Thompson? The enigmatic Sean Bergenheim. Last year, it was pretty clear Bergenheim fancied a more offensive role for himself. At times, he showed he can do that, but his penchant for bad penalties undermined that. This season, if he's playing with the slick-passing Doug Weight, I can see some offensive moments opening up for him. But as he did last season, Gordon appears to value Bergenheim more for his workhorse attitude than for his still-debatable hands: In three games, he's averaged 4:11 per game on the PK unit, plus only a minimal appearance (44 seconds total) on the powerplay, where he's behind several other guys with hands.

Again, it's three games, it may not mean a thing. But one week into the season, it gives us a few things to keep an eye on going forward.

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I'm not gonna freak out over three games

I don’t have this team making the post season anyways.

Besides, young teams have to learn how to play with leads. These last three games have been a great learning experience for these guys. They have to learn how to play disciplined situational hockey. It’s gonna take time.

There are gonna be lots of games like last nights this season.

by Chickendirt on Oct 11, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, I’m not too worried and growing pains are expected. If/when it happens again, I am curious to see how the veterans handle it. Last year became a bit of a shitstorm in that regard, so it’s nice to hear Weight talking proactively.

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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tambellini vs. Schremp

I feel like of the two, either Tambellini or Schremp will become a serviceable NHL player, and the other will become the leading scorer in Bridgeport Sound Tigers history. They can’t both be busts (OK, they can, but I hope not), and the Isles don’t have good enough luck to have both of them work out. You sort of wonder what they could do on the ice together; thankfully, inevitable injuries will likely cause this scenario to come to fruition.

by The Rivalry on Oct 11, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

either Tambellini or Schremp will become a serviceable NHL player, and the other will become the leading scorer in Bridgeport Sound Tigers history. They can’t both be busts (OK, they can, but I hope not), and the Isles don’t have good enough luck to have both of them work out.

This. It’s like the Islanders fan zeitgeist captured in two lines. I love it.

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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schremp’s played what like 7 NHL games or so prior to joining the Islanders… Despite that, he’s been one of the most heavily debated and blogged about player in Oilers history, lol. It will be interesting as hell to see how this pans out for him. If you can’t crack a roster when you’ve got a chance to bump the son of the GM who sent you down on waivers, then that’s pretty much the end of it.

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by Hockey Noob on Oct 11, 2009 11:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you can’t crack a roster when you’ve got a chance to bump the son of the GM who sent you down on waivers…

Ha! I hadn’t looked at it like that.

It really is remarkable how much he’s been talked about before getting a long NHL look. I blame all you prolific Oilers bloggers. :)

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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See my new fanpost

We need to establish a linemate for Josh along with hopefully Taylor Hall. Who will it be? Hunts, Tambellini, Schremp, Joensuu, Figren, a trade like Byfuglien? What do you think?

by BCISLEMAN on Oct 12, 2009 4:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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Josh Bailey 12 C 10/2/1989 188 6-1
Sean Bergenheim 20 LW 2/8/1984 205 5-10
Blake Comeau 57 RW 2/18/1986 207 6-1
Rick DiPietro 39 G 9/19/1981 210 6-1
Bruno Gervais 8 D 10/3/1984 205 6-1
Trent Hunter 7 RW 7/5/1980 210 6-3
Dustin Kohn 56 D 2/2/1987 200 6-2
Andrew MacDonald 47 D 9/7/1986 188 6-1
Freddy Meyer 44 D 1/4/1981 192 5-10
Matt Moulson 26 LW 11/1/1983 206 6-1
Frans Nielsen 51 C 4/24/1984 172 5-11
Kyle Okposo 21 RW 4/16/1988 200 6-1
Richard Park 10 RW 5/27/1976 190 5-11
Dwayne Roloson 30 G 10/12/1969 180 6-1
Rob Schremp 13 C 7/1/1986 200 5-11
Jon Sim 16 LW 9/29/1977 195 5-10
Mark Streit 2 D 12/11/1977 197 6-0
Andy Sutton 25 D 3/10/1975 245 6-6
Jeff Tambellini 15 LW 4/13/1984 186 5-11
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