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Islanders at Flames [soap opera game thread]

New York Islanders at Calgary Flames, Jan 8, 2009 9:00 PM EST


At the risk of covering a soap opera instead of a game: My read is that the Islanders -- or at least Gordon -- have actually handled this latest DiPietro setback straight up (one can infer Logan thinks so, and Logan doesn't hesitate to say when he smells fish) . BUT: But even if Chris Botta went a "little far" (Logan's words) with criticism in this specific instance, there is a larger issue at play: That being the ever-present strange way the club handles information flow.

And frankly, a club in the Islanders' fragile state is not in the position to be turning off the drove of fans who flock to Botta's site to follow their team. Maybe the club didn't expect him to bring this little spat out into the open -- and I'm sure it will pass once they return from the road trip -- but they could chide him privately rather than freeze him out (in case they forgot, that's how PR professionals handle coverage they don't like). The pen (keystroke?) still has some power left in it yet.

The lesson for the club: Their record of Orwellian information management practices is what makes fans jump on them at the first hint of misdirection. While they've since improved their injury reporting -- after much prodding -- this is an image problem that won't go away until they reflect a little more on how they engage their critically thinking consumers -- customers who may occasionally wonder, "Wait, why is it that I bother again?"

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New York Islanders (12-25-4, 30th) at Canada's Team-Stealing Scoundrels (24-12-4, 3rd/West)

9 p.m. EST | [suspicious growth] Saddledome | MSG+2 (twice the plus!)

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"Team-stealing scoundrels"

Fantastic! You can’t actually remember that, can you?

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by Donny Rivette on Jan 8, 2009 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

Sadly, no

Just the stories immediately afterward. Remember my Dad calling them “Atlanta” by accident. (He didn’t adapt to change well.)

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Grrr ... no Jiggs for me tonight

Through the random wonders of Center Ice, I’ve got the Flames feed. Telus or something. I don’t know what it is about the regional Canadian broadcasts, but their announcers are often shockingly not-great.

Hope these guys are better. Know they’re no Jiggs.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

On the other hand

I got to see footage of Darryl Sutter walking Michael Backlund (sp?) down the bleachers during practice before making the jump from the WJCs to the NHL.

If I were 19 and Darryl Sutter walked me into an NHL squad in the middle of the season, I’d probably throw up on the spot. And then Sutter would chew me out. And then bury me.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

I enjoy watching MacDonald

…because I don’t worry about his knees and hips every time he goes down.

I look forward to when we can say that about DiPietro again.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Glencross just whiffed on a shot so bad

… you heard the entire crowd gasp.

Would have been an easy smother for MacDonald, but somehow it bounced away, and now Thomas Pock, my nemesis, takes a penalty. I think Pock may have even been the reason MacDonald couldn’t cover the slowly approaching puck.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

PP goal, Calgary 1-0

Ouch. MacDonald made the initial save, but it dropped to his side and he punched it in trying to get to it with his blocker.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

Cammalleri got the goal.

I find myself tempted by the Habs/Leafs game.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Islanders PP

Flames have allowed just five PP goals in their last 14 games.

Oooh, MacDonald just came out to the blueline to prevent a breakaway, and then he backhanded the puck down the ice.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

End of 1st, Calgary up 1-0

Kind of a sleepy period, actually.

Shots: 11-8 Calgary.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

2-0: Picking up where we left off

30 seconds in. That was the kind of goal that would make Scott Gordon say, “You know what, Brendan Witt doesn’t fit my system.”

Witt did the lean-forward thing to break up a puck that was just headed to the corner (with no one there), and it ended up going right to the shooter, Bourque, who used Witt as a screen and sent it through Witt’s legs and top shelf over MacDonald. Not a god moment for Witter.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

Woo, nice breakout

Nice to have Martinek back! He just sent Trevor Smith flying through the neutral zone, setting up Jackman at the blueline with speed — too much for the D to handle, but Jackman couldn’t finish his deke.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Smith scores! 2-1

Trevor Smith’s first NHL goal. Save that puck! A rebound of Jackman’s shot, and he made the move around Kipper.

And I was just thinking how that Jackman/Smith line had shows some life tonight.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

Flames asst. coach Rich Preston interviewed

“It’s an up-and-down game so far. We’re not sustaining any pressure for any length of time.”

So you’re saying there’s a chance.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

Jesus, Witter

Witt just waved Lombardi on by (Lombardi was held off by Joey Mac), then he got the puck back and still almost was able to put it in.

I hate to see Witt this way, and Martinek just coming back. Twas a time when those two together were great…

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

Okposo off for 4 minutes

For an awkward incidental high stick on Cammalleri.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

4:00 killed, but

Streit takes a penalty 11 seconds before the end of the double-minor.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh my, Backlund, young chap

Had a wide open net for a chance at a first NHL goal of his own. Bounced over his stick.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions  

Woo, nearly six minutes of PP time

Killed off with a little bit of everything: great saves by MacDonald, and solid positioning by the PK.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Shots are 25-12 after all that PP time.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Tambellini! 2-2

Tambellini? Tambellini. Tambellini!?!?

Yes, Tambellini. Ties it at 2. With the kind of shot he possessed in the AHL but could never find here.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

So that’s what all the fuss was about.

by Islanders Outsider on Jan 8, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

Ugh, and it didn’t last long! For a moment there, thought we’d get to the third at 2-2 at least.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Keenan interview with ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun
“Kipper, for some unknown reason, had a little bit of a slow start, as he did a year ago, and seems to gain momentum. A year ago, it was us having four or five new defensemen, and this year, we had half a dozen new forwards. Maybe he plays off the system more than we realize, and it took us some time to get that system in place.”

Rest of it is here.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Ooh, Trent

Thought he was gonna get a good shot off from the high slot on the PP at the end there, but he just lost the handle. Frustrating. Would’ve been nice to go into the 3rd tied and see how they respond.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

haha

That’s true! Like seeing Okposo and Comeau score last game.

Wonder if Smith could be a late bloomer? He has some jump.

The Flames studio guys — with Mike Brophy who used to write for THN — are saying the Islanders have had a lot of bad luck in this game and this season. Well … okay!

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

End of 2nd 3-2

Shots 29-15 Calgary after that six minutes of powerplay there.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

5-2, Calgary

I’ve drifted and surfed around — and even showed the Mrs. how to load the new fancy coffeemaker.

Since 2-2, this game has taken a turn toward Tavares.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

Flames announcers sums it up:

“Boy when you’re having a tough time, the wheels start to fall off. One of those, let’s play running clock.”

Yep.

Weird thing about this Flames broadcast: They have three guys in the opener, three in the studio, yet the color man hardly ever says a peep (and the play-by-play voice grates).

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

He also pronounces "Okposo"

like “ahck-po-so.”

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently, Jiggs is signing off to Islanders fans now (according to commenters on Botta’s blog), and I’m stuck here listening to this grating Flames guy. Damn Center Ice.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, and they really did let the clock run out.

“Tough times for the Islanders …”
—color man (he’s awake!) interjects: “But they are heading home where they’ve won two in a row.” That must be some kind of rural Canadian politeness or something.

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by Dominik on Jan 8, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

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