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Trajectory of a story: Maple Leafs travel through the West, their media dig through the finances of Coyotes owner Jerry Moyes, and out comes a Globe & Mail article about how much money the Coyotes have lost, how the owner's other assets are stressed, how something must break. PuckDaddy's Greg Wyshynski says it's just more "move the NHL back to Canada!" talk. But is it? James Mirtle weighs in with some pretty convincing perspective about how, no really, things don't look good in Phoenix.

No matter what, it's going to be fascinating to watch the ripples of the global economy as it shakes down through NHL markets -- the Islanders included. (One report claims the Sabres are looking into a sale, with the NHL pretending that a franchise value must remain $200 million -- never mind that the market value of virtually every other kind of asset has declined this year.)

Despite Moyes's troubles and very tough local economics, the penalties for moving may be too great for relocation to be an option for any future Coyotes owner.

I remember the rather, ah, "leap of faith" nature of the whole Glendale land deal the Coyotes ownership pushed through, with The Great Wayne Gretzky as hood ornament. But I haven't paid much attention to it since. Apparently the rest of the development did not get underway on schedule. (Shock!)

Anything we can learn from the Coyotes to apply to our own owner's quest for the promised land of the Lighthouse Project?

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In one sense, the Coyotes and Islanders are similar -- each losing money and under-attended. Except that the Islanders don't have a new building (yet), and they have a much longer history of hockey support to draw on.

Of course, by the time (if?) the Lighthouse Project gets off the ground, economic, league and local conditions may be far different from what we have now -- and heck, the Islanders may have a Top Three draft stud (or two) by that time to excite local hockey junkies. Much may also depend on how successful the Islanders "Business Club" outreach is in building a base of corporate support: a monumental task in these economic times, but one that could pay off come higher-revenue Lighthouse Project time.

But the elephant in the room for Islanders fans when it comes to Lighthouse Project discussions is: What if the new building isn't enough? What if the Lighthouse Project happens, and it doesn't work? If Charles Wang is still losing money, and attendance is still below 14,000? Does the rest of the development keep it worthwhile for Long Island-loving Wang?

Or is it simply, "winning changes everything" in every non-hotbed market? (For example, the Coyotes are in a prolonged playoff drought. How big of a factor is that?) One reason the Town of Hempstead's supposed standing offer to let Wang redevelop Nassau Coliseum on its own is a non-starter is that Wang, his partner -- and any reasonable developer -- would need a steadier development bet to make the whole gamble worthwhile.

Many questions we can't really answer until after the ribbon's cut, but reasonable questions nonetheless.

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I think winning cures all. I got lucky in that my senior year of high school I became friends with a kid whose uncle had season tickets to the Islanders, which was also the year the Isles got Yashin and Peca and made the playoffs for the first time since the early-90’s. The Coliseum was rocking for a lot of that season, especially come playoffs. Unfortunately, the Isles never got better than that, and even though they were a playoff team the next few seasons, a lot of the casual fans slipped away. I’m guilty of it myself: I went to college, lost touch with the kid with season tickets, and have only been to two home games since that year.

If the Islanders can start to compete again (and not just compete for the 8th seed, but really compete), I think the fans will come back in force. I’m not saying they have to be a championship contender every single season, but they need to prove that they can field a competitive team year-in-year out and that management won’t bungle it as they’ve so often done in the past. That, plus a gorgeous new stadium should equal long-term prosperity for the franchise.

by cjmulrain on Dec 8, 2008 1:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Excellent point — thanks for weighing in!

While sort of living and dying with the daily ups and downs, I tend to forget that the electricity of 2001-02 wasn’t that long ago. (On that note, the Yashin/Peca trades were excusable in that context, since they gave things a long overdue boost.)

I don’t want to see the Islanders sit at the basement all season long, their struggles now show how much another high-end talent and good draft would make a difference. If they keep building the right way, maybe things mature just in time for the new building.

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Josh Bailey 12 C 10/2/1989 188 6-1
Sean Bergenheim 20 LW 2/8/1984 205 5-10
Blake Comeau 57 RW 2/18/1986 207 6-1
Rick DiPietro 39 G 9/19/1981 210 6-1
Bruno Gervais 8 D 10/3/1984 205 6-1
Trent Hunter 7 RW 7/5/1980 210 6-3
Dustin Kohn 56 D 2/2/1987 200 6-2
Andrew MacDonald 47 D 9/7/1986 188 6-1
Freddy Meyer 44 D 1/4/1981 192 5-10
Matt Moulson 26 LW 11/1/1983 206 6-1
Frans Nielsen 51 C 4/24/1984 172 5-11
Kyle Okposo 21 RW 4/16/1988 200 6-1
Richard Park 10 RW 5/27/1976 190 5-11
Dwayne Roloson 30 G 10/12/1969 180 6-1
Rob Schremp 13 C 7/1/1986 200 5-11
Jon Sim 16 LW 9/29/1977 195 5-10
Mark Streit 2 D 12/11/1977 197 6-0
Andy Sutton 25 D 3/10/1975 245 6-6
Jeff Tambellini 15 LW 4/13/1984 186 5-11
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