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I'm not surprised to hear Pock will be suspended. I am surprised to hear it's 5 games -- 3 more than Ruutu and 2 more than Kostopoulos. Not equating these three incidents, just wondering where in the world the rhyme and the reason comes from. Can I say again: An actual policy might be helpful?

It's difficult not to see this as making an example of the no-name player on the unheralded team.

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Building a policy on something like this would be hard. I totally agree that all players throwing flying elbows should be suspended equally. But does it receive a harsher penalty based on the severity of the potential injury (or risk of one)? And even still, who gauges that? Five games sounds a fair base to build off of. If you render the guy unconscious perhaps 10-12.

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2008 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

I agree the actual policy construction would be hard. But I think the effort would be worth it. If they can get together to determine the measurements of legal goalie equipment, they can do this. Break it into categories, or checklists:

  • was it a hockey play? (while we’re at it, define “hockey play”)
  • was there reasonable time to adjust/pull up/reduce impact?
  • does apparent motive/premeditation matter? (e.g., although Pock’s hit ended in a concussion, it was an instant-reaction move; Ruutu’s looked like the classic case of a guy setting his sights to deliver a flying elbow. Which is worse?)
  • did the victim put himself in a vulnerable position, counting on a hockey advantage because he knew the opponent (aggressor) would have to slow down?

I want them to make clear: Is it okay for a puck carrier to turn his back (facing the boards) so as to make an incoming hit illegal? Because if it is, players should know that and adjust.

More importantly, if they built in some transparency (have the hearings open to the public — imagine the show!), and if they explicitly said:

  • the market size of the victim’s team does/doesn’t matter;
  • the talent/star-quality of the victim does/doesn’t matter;
  • the fact this game was on national TV does/doesn’t matter; etc.

The only thing they seem to be explicit about is whether the aggressor is a repeat offender.

Obviously, I need to chill out or run for office.

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by Dominik on Nov 20, 2008 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha wow. You’ve definitely given this some thought. Why chill out? I say run for office.

I think “doesn’t matter” applies to each of your bullets in the second part. Obviously the first list requires a bit more depth, but as for the second list none of those things should be a factor.

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

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